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Do you need to have a permit to trap coyotes, and do you need to inform fish and game of where you have traps?
Matt
No and No. There is no license required or season on coyotes. You do not need to inform DWR (fish & game) of where you are trapping. You do have to have your traps identified with your assigned number that you get from DWR for $5.00. This number is good for your lifetime. It's a good idea to read the Furbearers Proclamation to become familiar with the laws and rules before setting traps. We are here to help you, but the resonsibility is yours to be informed. http://www.wildlife.utah.gov/furbearer/
Thanks for your inquiry,
Theron
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"Summer Homework Spells Success"
"Although catching bobcats involves many factors, finding them is the most important. The second important factor is having everything ready when the season starts. Bobcat season is too short to be prying frozen rocks out of the ground for stepping guides, cutting brush for trail blocks and walking around in circles looking for a perfect spot. I accomplish those tasks while scouting."
Excerpt from:
Scouting Western Bobcats
By Dave Morelli
(Posted on The Trapper & Predator Caller magazine web site.)
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I am trapping only Coyotes/ Raccoons and an occasional Red Fox.. (Unprotected Species in Utah)
DUE TO THE FACT THAT I AM TRAPPING.... If my traps are marked with my registration number and meet the 3/16 jaw spread rules ... AM I required to buy a fur bearer license to trap for these non fur bearer species?
Bert
Answer: No
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I'm 12 and just getting started on trapping. My main question is,
after you skin the coon or whatever you've managed to catch, is there
some way that you can preserve the pelts without tanning. That is, my
schedule is already pretty hectic without having to open up my own
curring/tanning factory.
Thanks a bunch.
Andrew
OK thanks. One more question, if i don't want to pay to tan professionally how do you suggest tanning at home?
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Send your questions/answers to Theron at: tctaylor@wirelessbeehive.com
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"I have recently moved to Utah and am interested in obtaining a fur bearers license please advise me ."
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Richard
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OK, well… Depending on your age, you may have to attend an Furbearers Education Course before being eligible to buy a Furbearers License. If you were born after Dec. 1, 1984, you will have to attend a class and pass it successfully. You also have to be a resident for 6 months or buy a non-resident license.
Better yet, click on this link and read the requirements for obtaining a license on page 6.
http://www.wildlife.utah.gov/proclamations/2006-07_furbearer/furbearer.pdf
Thanks for the inquiry,
Theron
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Send your questions/answers to Theron at: tctaylor@wirelessbeehive.com
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How do I join the UTA?
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There are several membership options IE. Regular Member, Jr. Member, Sr. Member or Lifetime Member. Contact:
Paul Jarvis - Secretary
P.O. Box 571
Santaquin, Utah 84655
(801) 754-3739
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You can print an application from the Application page.
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Send your questions/answers to Theron at: tctaylor@wirelessbeehive.com
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I'm new to trapping and would really like to get into it. What are some things that I can do to learn how to trap well, safely, and legally?
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Morgan Huber (435)864-7406
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The first thing you should do is obtain a proclamation. This can be done online from the DWR link on this page. Read it over very carefully until you are familiar with the laws that apply to what you want to trap. Then join the UTA and start getting help and advice from the members. Each year on the week-end after Labor Day, we hold our annual Convention/Rendezvous at the Juab County Fairgrounds in Nephi. This is a great place to start learning about trapping. Also, with a regular membership, you receive a subscription to the Trapper and Predator Caller magazine. This is a great publication with info. for beginners as well as experienced trappers. UTA members will be more willing to share their help and experience with a fellow UTA member.
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Theron
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The August 2006 issued of the Trapper/Predator Caller has a story about trapping a lion in Idaho during the 1960s. Do you think we'll again be able to trap lion with a special tag/quota someday? Thanks
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The UTA has approached the division on lion trapping. Currently we are in the process of making it possible. There are alot of bugs to work out,however it seems possible that we could possibly be trapping lions in the near future. If things work out there is a good possibility that we will be able to trap lions next year. Stan Bassett
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Hey Theron,
My name is Jon and I became intrested in trapping when I was about 12 but I was never able to get the supplies a.k.a. traps to do any trapping. I moved to Utah when I was 14 and one of my scout leaders gave me a few traps. I caught a few muskrats and accidentally caught a coon. I had no clue what I was doing and ruined the hides. I loved to trap but soon became more intrested in girls. I read alot of trapping books from then until now. I am now married and my wife had a Grandfather who loved to trap. Well her family started doing estate sales and found his dozens of traps so I inherited them during the winter last year. So, know I have the main issue solved that I had years ago and I would love to start trapping again. I found the UTA web page and I am eager to go to the rendezvous in September and possibly join the UTA. Could you send me some more info on the "Rendezvous" and info on joining. Hopfully this will be the year for me. Thanks Alot
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Jon MacLee
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You'll love the UTA. The members are some of the nicest people on earth.
Theron
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When do coyotes get prime so they can be trapped?
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1. Some are saleable by late Oct., but get better with time until they start to slip in late Jan. or early Feb.
2.I feel like late November is the best time
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what is the chemical used in dispatching the shunks
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1.Propylene Glycol
2. Acetone
3. Rubbing Alcohol
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When is a good time to start trapping for canines in Utah, where we can have quality pelts. Should I wait until Bobcat season opens? Is it different every year, some years are warmer than others. Thanks
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Alan Bailey
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Pelt quality has very little to do with how cold it is outside rather it is due to the amount of sunlight being received which in some cases but not always will coincide with temperature
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I need a good reference on fur handling for each species. Something that shows how to put up different furbearers and what buyers are looking for. Any ideas?
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I was just wanting to know the measurements for coon hides(small,med.,ect.) stretched from nose to base of tail.
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How would I find out if there is a bounty, for coyotes in my county?
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I would contact your county treasurer. You can probably find the number in your phone book and give them a call to ask. If they are paying county money for bounties, the treasurer's office will surely know.
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This is my first year actually trapping but, over the past 3 years I have slowly bought 12 traps and attended the Association meetings in Nephi. I just had 3 traps stolen on treasure hill by Eureka, nice place. I figure it must have been a fellow trapper because it looked like someone had set there in the past. My traps were tagged with my number... now I am stamping it into the trap it self. My question is what is the best way to prevent trap theft ? If anyone has any info on this theft please let me know. Im trying for bobcats so if anyone has any tips I could use some help. I still havent gotten one yet.. I would hope that all trapers would respect other trapper's sets... Thank You
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Justin Erdmann 801-491-8237 call after 6:00 p.m.
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I know of at least two other trappers that have experienced theft by Eureka. Apparently there is a "Johnny Sneakum" working that area. Personally, I lose approx. 6 traps a year to theft. I hate it, but consider it a cost of doing business. I always report the thefts to the Sheriff and DWR so if they ever catch the puke, I may have the small chance of getting them back. I also worry about somebody using my traps illegally. I feel for ya' buddy, but don't know how to advise you.
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When do fox start to rub and when is the best time to stop trapping them?
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I usually consider the first of Feb. for a cut off date. It depends on the indiviual fox (and coyote) when they rub. Sometimes you can find a good one half way into Feb., but that is the exception. Some will rub earlier also.
Theron
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When are the fox pelts prime here and how long can you trap them?
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They are usually prime enough to sell by the first of Nov. and start rubbing by the first of Feb.
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The place where I trap the ground is frozen and is hard to put stakes in the ground . Any sugestions on a good set for coons in this situation?
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If the ground is too hard to drive a stake, your only other choice is to tie off to a drag or other structure solid enough to hold, (fence, tree, building, etc.). If you elect to use a drag, be sure it is big enough or grabby enough to catch and hold someplace close. Coons can work a drag hard and pull one further than you'd think.
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Alright, my brother-in-law and I are just getting started into the hounds and trapping, and I have a quick question about trapping. According to the Proclimation it states that we are those born after dec. 13, 1984 DO NOT require the DWR's furbearers Education course. If anyone can please tell me if this is true or I am reading it wrong it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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Andrew Nixon (801) 680-7438
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I copied and pasted this from the proclamation. You can access this from the DWR link on the our home page. It means that if you were born BEFORE 12/31/84, (if you are older than 22), you don't need proof of attending the course.
B. Proof of Furharvester Education 23-19-11.5 (1) A resident born after December 31, 1984, may not purchase a resident furbearer license unless the applicant presents: (a) a certificate of completion of a Division approved furharvester education course; (b) an immediately preceding year's furbearer license with the furharvester education number noted on the furbearer license. (2) Upon issuance of the resident furbearer license, the Division or authorized license agent shall indicate the applicant's furharvester education number on the furbearer license. (3)(a) If an applicant for a resident furbearer license has completed a furharvester education course and is applying for a permit or license, the applicant's furharvester education number and the name of the state, province, or country that issued the may constitute proof of completion of a furharvester education course under this section. (b) The Division may research the furharvester education number to verify that applicant has completed a Division approved furharvester education course.
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When stretching bobcats do you need to stretch them 4 inches wide for every foot long, and if not how?
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I have never heard that rule. What do others say? I say that is just about perfect might even go 4.5 to 5"
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I am a new member to the association and dropped my furs off at the auction in Nephi this year. Can you tell me how the prices were on the furs, and how the payment process works? All they told me down there was I would have to wait a few weeks. How does it work? And how would I know if all my furs didn't sell?
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This year the UTA had an unusually large sale. We recieved much more fur than anticipated. As a result we had to make some fast decisions. We had the option of having a two day sale, if we stayed with that much of the fur would not have even been bid on. Also, the buyers threatened to leave. The other option was to stop taking in fur. I felt that this option was totally unacceptable because this is the UTA's sale and the UTA will look after it's members. The other option was to have a three day sale. This posed the problem of being able to rent the building for the next day, to be able to maintain evening security, to allow for the computer and equipment to stay for another day,and to have enough help to operate the sale on Monday. This decision had to be made instantly. After discussing the situation over it was decided to have a three day sale. I feel that this was the best decision to make. I did have several people mad at me for this decision, but I stand by it. The UTA's motto is TRAPPERS HELPING TRAPPERS and I feel that the three day sale was the best option to help fellow trappers. During the time that we were discussing options for the sale there was alot of rumors and talk going on. I want to assure all of you that the UTA had no intention of turning away anyone with their fur. This is the UTA's sale and we will have it for all UTA members. I do want to say that this sale went over extremely well. And I want to thank all of the people that helped for making the fur sale possible. If you want to find out what you recieved for your fur you can call me with your lot numbers and I can tell you what you recieved. The checks will be mailed as soon as the fur buyers checks clear from the bank. This will take around two to three weeks. The checks are ready to send the day after the sale however, they cannot be sent untill the other checks clear. Your patience will be much appreciated. Thanks again,
Stan Bassett 435-245-4508
Sale Results
Bobcat: Total:2662
Av. price: $195.81
top: $501.83
Coyote: Total 1713
Av.price: $29.14
top: $68.39
Red fox: total 796
Av. price: $22.36
top: $47.92
Grey fox: total 600
Av. price: $37.31
top: $49.31
Kit fox: total: 56
Av. price: $10.12
top: $13.30
Beaver: total: 191
Av. price: $17.36
top: $41.82
Muskrat: total: 477
Av. price: .95
Top: $10.00
Raccoon:total: 218
av. price $6.88
Top:$20.00
Badger:total: 97
Av. price: $12.33
Top: $31.00
Beaver Castor: 1 bunch
price: $61.82
Cross fox: total 2
av. price: $21.05
top: $21.05
Jack Rabbit: total: 3
av and top price: $4.27
Mink: total: 62 <BR<
Ringtail: total: 35
av. price $12.54
Top: $16.69
Spotted skunk: total: 1 price: $10.69
Stripped skunk: total: 11
av. $7.27
top: $12.00
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When is the next youth coyote hunt, and where?
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Nov. 10th, 2007, Nephi, Ut.
You can get more info and download an application on the President's report page.
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How about a place on this site where trappers can sell equipment or trade equipment?
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We now have a Swapmeet page. Submit to Theron your items and interests:
tctaylor@wirelessbeehive.com
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